Hebrew Roots mishmash of Messer calls the mantle a "Foreskin"???

"Who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God?"
"As for Ralph Messer, I for one do not believe someone who has gone this far into harmful error and sensationalism has any role to play in religious leadership of any kind at any time in the future." 

WORD FAITH PROSPERITY PREACHER EDDIE LONG CROWNED KING

Ralph Messer heads up Simchat Torah Beit Midrash® (STBM), which is a mishmash of Messer’s quasi-Messianic Jewish-Christian “inter-faith” modalism.






 
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Ralph Messer, the “Rabbi” Who Crowned Eddie Long, Isn’t Jewish

This is totally off topic, but it’s burning up my Twitter feed and I just need to get it off my chest.

A bizarre video was recently posted to YouTube of Bishop Eddie Long being “crowned” at his church in a truly weird ritual. In the video, a “rabbi” named Ralph Messer wraps Long in what he describes as a 300-year-old “Holocaust scroll,” then drapes him in a shawl and hoists him in the air before declaring him a king.

It’s all very strange, not least because Long, the pastor of an Atlanta megachurch, was disgraced last year in a scandal involving his sexual relationships with at least four underage parishoners. (Long has been vocally anti-gay throughout his career, and the parishoners were male.)

There’s nothing that’s not creepy about the whole thing, and it’s been greeted with the mockery it deserves, but there’s one piece of the story that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention but should:

Rabbi Ralph Messer isn’t Jewish.

Messer is a proponent of so-called Messianic Judaism, a religious movement founded in the 1960s that wraps evangelical Christian theology in Jewish cultural trappings.

Put simply, it’s a Christian movement. Messer is a Christian minister.

And despite Messer’s claim to be acting “on behalf of the Jewish people and the land of Israel,” there’s nothing Jewish about the performance he put on at Long’s church. Neither the ritual nor the language of Messer’s act have any basis in Jewish traditions, while his repeated references to the divinity of Jesus and quotations from the Christian bible make his actual theology clear.

Also, the “priceless” Torah scroll Messer wraps Long in is almost certainly a fake. As you can see at 5:15 in the video, the thing is held together with scotch tape.

Oh, and one more tip for “Rabbi” Messer, if he’s reading this. The name of the Nazi concentration camp where you claim you found that scroll? It’s Auschwitz-Birkenau, not “Auschwitz and Birkendal.” SOURCE:

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Ralph Messer is not a Messianic Jewish Rabbi

Posted on February 2, 2012 by Derek Leman

By now, most of you have seen the horrifying desecration of a Sefer Torah (a scroll hand-copied by a Jewish scribe with meticulous care) by Ralph Messer at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Georgia (only about ten miles from my home in Snellville). Dozens of people have been sending me emails, Facebook messages, etc., asking for my view. In my opinion, this event was far less the fault of Bishop Eddie Long than of Ralph Messer. I have been told that the video at the 9:57 mark shows the Bishop’s discomfort with the ceremony. Furthermore, I pin the blame on Ralph Messer who claims to be a rabbi and claims to be Messianic Jewish.

Ralph Messer is not a rabbi affiliated with the UMJC, the MJAA, or the IMJA. He does not represent Messianic Judaism. Anyone may claim to be a priest, rabbi, or pastor. A friend constantly tells me that there are mail-order and internet “Ordination Certificates” available as cheaply as $5. I have heard of Ralph Messer and from time to time people have sent me material by him. I have regarded it with the same lack of seriousness as a Chick tract (google Jack Chick) or a video of Robert Tilton.

The fact that talented showmen who have no legitimate message, who are self-authorized, who contradict the sound values of religion repeatedly, can gather crowds and make names for themselves should not surprise anyone. I run across the kind of gullible people who believe the Ralph Messers of the world all the time. Many of them are good people. And many see the light eventually and move past their hypnotic fascination with the showy spectacles. The ones who should be ashamed are the wolves in sheep’s clothing like Ralph Messer. The message of people like Ralph Messer is not Judaism (the historic faith which is thousands of years old and which has a rich, multi-layered tradition that has continued developing ever since) nor Christianity (ditto).

Many of us (leaders in Messianic Judaism) have been talking informally. I know a number of us — I’m speaking only informally and not as a representative of any organization — would like to see Bishop Eddie Long apologize, return the Torah Scroll either to Ralph Messer or whomever its previous owner was, and make a public statement that it was never his intention to have someone claiming to be a rabbi cause an offense in the Jewish community. I believe the Jewish community would be very forgiving of a pastor who was the victim of a rogue clergyman making grandiose claims.

As for Ralph Messer, I for one do not believe someone who has gone this far into harmful error and sensationalism has any role to play in religious leadership of any kind at any time in the future. Repentance by Messer would not satisfy me. An apology and early retirement would impress me. Of course, the U.S. Constitution gives Messer the freedom to be as foolish and wrong as he desires as long as he abides by the laws of our country. As for the people who have listened to Messer’s teachings and who have been fooled by the showmanship, there are many churches and synagogues where a meaningful faith and practice can be found. I hope Messer’s followers will learn from this and find true Judaism and/or true Christianity. If there are any Jewish followers of Yeshua (Jesus) in Messer’s congregation (I doubt it), I encourage them to find a UMJC, MJAA, or IMJA congregation and move on. SOURCE:

Update | A bible scholar lists  27 ways in which Messer’s performance misrepresented Jewish and Christian religious tradition. (Here)

"Ralph Messer has been exploiting African-Americans and making a mockery of the Hebrew roots of the faith for years," said former NFL Minnesota Viking chaplain Keith Johnson in a news release.

"I first encountered Messer eleven years ago when my friend the late Football Hall-of-Famer Reggie White paid him an inordinate amount of money to learn Hebrew under his tutelage as a 'rabbi.' A year went by and Reggie never received even a single Hebrew lesson. I decided to confront Messer with Reggie and Pro Bowler Hardy Nickerson as witnesses.

"In their presence 'Rabbi Ralph' admitted he had never formally been ordained as a real rabbi. I then challenged Messer to read from my Hebrew Bible and he responded by making excuses for an hour about why it was “dangerous” to learn the language. I continued to insist he read from my Bible in Hebrew and with great effort, Messer managed to slowly sound out the first verse of the Bible one syllable at a time. It was obvious to everyone present that Messer did not possess the knowledge to read the Hebrew language let alone to teach it.

"For the past ten years, I have seen Messer continue to throw around Hebrew terms he does not fully understand and misuse holy objects such as Torah Scrolls to manipulate people and bring them under his authority as a “rabbi” and a supposed 'representative of the Jewish People and the Land of Israel.'

"As a United Methodist pastor who believes in the importance of the Hebrew roots of our faith, I am deeply offended by what he did this past week at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. It is my sincere hope and prayer that by speaking out others will be spared from falling prey to his manipulative practices that offend both Jew and Gentile alike," Johnson said [sic]

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The Torah is dressed and decorated because it is holy and is considered the core of God's communication with Israel. The manner in which it is dressed and decorated, however, is symbolic of the garb worn by the High Priest of old when he served God in the sanctuary of the Temple in Jerusalem. Once, Jewish worship centered on the sacrificial cult in the Temple, as described extensively in the Torah. After the Destruction of the Second Temple in 69/70 C.E., daily prayer came to replace the sacrifices as the locus of Jewish service of God. In addition, our sages taught that we serve God through study and deeds of kindness, but prayer is the focus of communal worship.

Chapter 28 of the Book of Exodus contains a description of the garb of the High Priest. His special clothing included a tunic (the Torah mantle, or covering), a belt (the sash around the Torah scroll), a miter (the crown of the Torah), and a breastplate. Each of these has been reproduced in some fashion for dressing and decorating the Sefer Torah.

The mantle, symbolic of the High Priest's tunic, resembles a cylinder with one closed end that contains two small, round holes, through which the wooden rolls protrude. The mantle may be decorated as the congregation chooses, and often verses about the importance of Torah are embroidered on the front of the mantle. (I have made Torah mantles, and it is not difficult to do.)

The sash of the High Priest is symbolized by the sash which ties the scroll together before the mantle is placed over the scroll. This sash, or belt, holds the scroll tightly rolled and protects it when it is being held or standing in the ark. The belt is fastened by a hook or sometimes by velcro (proving that the U.S. Space Program has, indeed, benefited Jewish life). Sometimes, a child's swaddling cloth is embroidered and decorated and sewn into a sash and given as a gift to the congregation.

The High Priest wore a special breastplate and vestments, encrusted with 12 precious- and semi-precious stones symbolizing the 12 Tribes of Israel when he was engaged in his sacred duties. In this manner, it was clear that the High Priest served God on behalf of the entire people Israel. Torah scrolls are often similarly dressed, with a breastplate which is hung over the top of the eitzei chayim (wooden rollers), though it can have a wide variety of designs and inscriptions. This symbolizes that the Torah is the inheritance of the entire Jewish people.

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Eddie Long a 'King?' Religious Scholar Refutes 'Bizarre' Ceremony

New Birth Missionary Baptist Minister Declared 'King' In Bizarre Sunday Ritual

Rabbi Ralph Messer, during a Jan. 29 service at the Baptist church in Lithonia, Ga., directed assistants to wrap Long in a purportedly 312-year-old priceless Hebrew scroll from World War II, and proclaimed that Long was now "hidden in the word of God." After inviting Long to sit down on a chair and handing him the Torah scroll, four helpers lifted the chair on which Long was sitting and paraded the minister across the podium, while Messer proclaimed him a "king."


The rabbi went on to say that Long sits between two courts, the court of justice and the court of blessings. Worshipers in attendance applauded as the minister was ushered about in the air on the chair as the ceremony continued.


Messer, who leads Simchat Torah Beit Midrash (STBM) – a congregation promoting interfaith discussions –  teaches principles of the Torah that he claims "produce life" or prosperity. 


The video of the rabbi proclaming the troubled Long a "king" has sparked hundreds of comments from people on YouTube and Twitter who were either confused by the ceremony or did not quite understand how Long, who has been embattled in accusations of sexual misconduct and faces a divorce, might be considered a "king" in any context. A number of religion authorities, however, have also weighed in with their opinions on the issue.




Watch a video of Bishop Eddie Long being "crowned king."
The Rev. Wil Gafney, Ph.D, an Associate Professor of Biblical Hebrew and Jewish and Christian Scripture, wrote a lengthy commentary for The Huffington Post in which she exposes no less than 27 different ways in which Rabbi Messer presented "false" understandings of the Torah.



"He does not – represent recognizable Jewish thought or practice in his (mis-) representations of the Torah and other Jewish sancta – or for that matter, New Testament and Christian biblical interpretation and theology," Gafney writes.


Long, who keeps a stoic expression throughout the ceremony, wiping his eyes with a napkin on a couple of occasions, was also criticized for simply going along with the "royal" decree.


"Bishop Eddie Long has officially gone off the deep end. How much was this 'rabbi' paid to crown Long a 'king?,'" tweeted pastor Lee Grady from Orlando, Fla., also a contributing editor for Charisma magazine.


"(The ceremony) in no way represents any Jewish ritual that I'm familiar with," said Bill Nigut, Southeast Regional Director of the Anti-Defamation League, an Anti-Semitism organization. "We do not proclaim individuals to be kings," he added, the AJC.com reported.


"We wouldn't wrap a Jewish person in a Torah scroll and declare him king. As a Jew, I find that use of symbols very off-putting," expressed Rabbi Joshua Heller of Congregation B'nai Torah in Sandy Springs.


"The Jewish community does not associate itself with the Messianic congregations. We don't feel like this does due justice to either the Jewish or Christian community," Heller noted.


Angus Johnston, a historian and advocate at StudentActivism.net, also insisted in an article that as "bizarre" as the event was, Rabbi Ralph Messer is not a Jewish rabbi.


Johnson writes in his article, "There's nothing that's not creepy about the whole thing, and it's been greeted with the mockery it deserves, but there's one piece of the story that hasn't gotten a lot of attention but should: Rabbi Ralph Messer isn't Jewish.


"Messer is a proponent of so-called Messianic Judaism, a religious movement founded in the 1960s that wraps evangelical Christian theology in Jewish cultural trappings."


"It's my prayer that the world stop judging Christians & churchgoers based on Eddie Long & his wackadoo shenanigans," tweeted Jawn Murray, a media personality associated with EMI Gospel, a Christian music label, reminding others that people should not be quick to put all Christians in the same basket based on the actions of a few. 

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I am writing this response to a YouTube video circulating widely on the internet in in which Eddie Long, the troubled pastor of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta GA is apparently crowned king with the ritual use of a Jewish Torah scroll. (The reader may know him for the recent scandal in which he was accused by five young men of sexual misconduct. After initially denying the allegations, he went into settlement talks with them.) A number of specious claims are made during the ritual which I would like to refute.

The unidentified man who, (in the YouTube video to which I had access he is identified subsequently as Ralph Messer), represents himself as a Jew. He may well be some sort of Messianic Jew, a person who claims Jewish heritage and recognizes Jesus as the Son of God, but who is not part of one of the major Jewish movements: Orthodox, Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Reform, Renewal. He does not, however, represent recognizable Jewish thought or practice in his (mis-) representations of the Torah and other Jewish sancta -- or for that matter, New Testament and Christian biblical interpretation and theology.

1. The claim that Holocaust Torahs cannot be insured "because there are no more" is patently false. They are regularly insured as are other one of a kind objects d'art, i.e. the works of Picasso.
2. The Torah cover is not a "foreskin." Hyper-masculine, hyper-sexualization of the Torah reduces the holy Torah to a problematic phallic symbol -- God's? or Long's? -- and categorizes the most destructive behaviors associated with New Birth ministries in recent years. Grammatically and symbolically, the Torah is feminine in Hebrew and is personified as "She," as in "She is a Tree of Life," in Prov. 3:18.
3. The Temple in Jerusalem was not a synagogue or Beth Midrash, where Torah scrolls were kept and studied.
4. The Torah wrapper is not referred to as a "belt of righteousness."
5. The tree in the vision in the book of Revelation whose "leaves are for the healing of the nations," (22:2), is a fruit tree -- not a Torah scroll -- and the text does not say that there are "39 leaves" as claimed in the video.
6. The claim that "only one of great authority" is given a "finger" to touch the scroll is patently false. Any bar or bat mitvah, girl or boy, woman or man, who has completed the rite of passage, can chant the Torah according to the (minhag) custom in their congregation. Torah scroll pointers, called "hands," (yadayim), not "fingers" are common gifts and possessions in Jewish families and communities.
7. The claim that 90 percent of the Jews in the world have "never seen, approached or touched" Torah scrolls is utterly without foundation. The Torah is taken out of the Ark during Shabbat and other services; it is processed through the assembly twice where people reverence it (Her!) by touching and kissing it/Her.
8. The frequent references to significant numbers may be an attempt to mimic the Jewish mystical tradition of Gematria that elicits meanings from numbers and their contexts. The speaker is devising his own system without reference to any of the classical texts in Judaism, frequently by simple free- and word-association.
9. There is no verse in the scriptures where Jesus calls himself "the eternal government of God" as claimed by the speaker.
10. The point that "these" -- presumably Torah scrolls or just Holocaust Torah scrolls are only given to "cities in need of anointing" is false. Individuals, families and religious communities own and commission Torah scrolls and keep or give them as they see fit, to synagogues, Jewish seminaries and other schools and museums.
11. Even if the speaker identifies as a Jew and has Israeli citizenship, he does not speak for "the Jewish people," "the land of Israel" or "the state of Israel."
12. His address of Eddie Long as a biblical or Israelite king is without foundation in the scriptures or in reality.
13. The notion that there is such a thing as a "king chromosome" is a fiction, as is the claim that it is kohenic, that is priestly; the Israelite and Judean monarchs -- there were queens as well -- were not priests.
14. The man's articulation of what "God wants," is to say the least unsubstantiated outside that particular setting.
15. The man never says how he knows that none of Long's ancestors or relatives has ever seen a Torah scroll.
16. While there are some traditional reflections on the human body -- including DNA and chromosomes -- in the mystical Kabbalistic tradition, the speaker is crafting a verbal montage without reference to the classical texts or their theologies.
17. He attributes a quote to "Jewish doctors" stereotyping an entire community as conflating cellular biology with his Hebrew mysticism without actually naming or quoting any single "Jewish doctor" who holds such an opinion.
18. The "crowns" in Torah scrolls stem from a particular -- now-normative -- calligraphy style, but other types of calligraphy have been used through the ages to produce legitimate Torah scrolls.
19. The claim that the kings of Israel were crowned with Torah scrolls wrapping them has no foundation in the biblical text. According to the bible's own chronology the written Torah did not come into existence until the reign of King Josiah in the sixth century BCE (2 Kgs 22), some four hundred years after the time of David. However, the great second century rabbi Hanina ben Teradion, was however wrapped in a Torah scroll and burned alive in his martyrdom. Perhaps he has confused or conflated the traditions.
20. While the Torah poles are called, etzim, "trees," they are not known as "justice and blessing."
21. The speaker's claim that his speaking "life" to Eddie Long as a Jew has some meaning, is utterly without meaning.
22. The speaker's prediction that the ritual -- his antecedent is unclear -- will arouse either "death" or "life" in someone -- Long? Or the congregation? -- is his own Gnosticism, knowledge that is not shared by those outside that particular setting.
23. There is no precedent for presenting anyone, even a fictitious Israelite-ish monarch with the Torah wrapper.
24. The donning of the tallit, prayer shawl, is done by those who have completed their bar or bat mitzvah -- whatever it was that just occurred, it had none of the requisite elements of a bat or bar mitzvah. In addition the tallit is donned by pulling it over one's head and reciting the traditional prayer, which was not done. It is also not draped like a clergy stole.
25. The elevation of Long lifted in the chair by four men seems to have been borrowed from Jewish wedding festivities and has noting to do with coronation; there is no evidence of this practice among Israelite or Judean monarchs.
26. The Aaronic blessing (Num 6:24-26) is a blessing for the people and not a putative leader.
27. It is unfortunate that the speaker chose to plunder the sacred traditions of Judaism as he invented novel interpretations of biblical texts and imagery affirm and elevate an individual who had admittedly broken the sacred trust between pastor and congregant.

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Superbowl Halftime Show of Cultural Misappropriation (VIDEO)

Evangelical use of Jewish ritual objects isn't new.

Neither is Ralph Messer's bizarre history of invoking Jew-ish rituals. His latest shtick — a veritable Superbowl halftime show of cultural misappropriation circulating via YouTube — has angered the Atlanta Jewish community.

On Jan. 29, 2011, Messer, a self-designated rabbi who preaches Jesus as lord and messiah, recently 'coronated' embattled Atlanta bishop Eddie Long, who was accused of sexual misconduct with several young men he counseled as spiritual leader of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. The all out ritual blitz included a metaphoric allusion to the Torah cover (Yiddish: mantel) as foreskin, hoisting Long in a chair bar mitzvah style, and enveloping him in a Torah scroll, which Messer claimed was 312 years old and rescued from Auschwitz and "Birkendol."

Much like his botched pronunciation of the extermination camp, many viewers — even some messianic Jews — have taken issue with Messer's over-the-counter improvisations of Jewish ritual. [For a thorough sacking of his antics, see Rev. Wil Gafney, Ph.D.'s smackdown on the Huffington Post.]

It turns out Messer's Auschwitz Torah shtick isn't new.

On Jan. 31, 2011 — one year prior to the latest gaffe — Messer delivered a similar invocation at the North Dakota House of Representatives with what appears to be a different "Auschwitz Torah." The Bismarck Tribune reported the displeasure of Jewish groups:

The Jewish Community Relations Council contacted House Majority Leader Al Carlson, R-Fargo, saying Messer’s prayer was disturbing in its mischaracterization of the Jewish faith.“It concerns us because it projects an inaccurate representative of Judaism, whether that’s Jewish rituals, objects or beliefs,” said Steve Hunegs, executive director of the Jewish Community Relations Council...

Messer said the Jewish Community Relations Council’s complaint reflects the delicate line he must walk in trying not to offend Jews or Christians, both religions of which influence his own thought. Still, he said, his Jewish practices are more in line with Orthodox Judaism, but includes New and Old Testament teachings.

"More in line with Orthodox Judaism?" If Long were an Orthodox Jew, he likely wouldn't be called to the Torah for an aliyah — let alone wrapped in one. source:

Second Update | The “Messianic Judaism” movement repudiatesMesser too: “Ralph Messer is not affiliated with the mainstream Messianic Jewish movement, nor is he a legitimately ordained Messianic Rabbi.” (More here and here.)

CHRISTOPAGAN WARNING!

"WE BELIEVE…In the one true and living God; affirming the Holy Trinity — within the nature of the one God, there exists three Co-equal and Co-eternal Persons. God the Father; God the Son-Jesus of Nazareth, Who is the Christ; and God the Holy Spirit." from: http://apprising.org/beliefs/  - 100% Nicene Christian Heresy 

WORD FAITH PROSPERITY PREACHER EDDIE LONG CROWNED KING

By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Feb 1, 2012 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Features

Spiritual darkness continues to grow and 1 Peter 4:17judgments are being sent by Jesus to rain upon the visible Christian church.

As apostasy increases Apprising Ministries functions with other soldiers against error in the mission field of online apologetics and discernment along the Internet Front of this Truth War.

Unfortunately, the delusion descending upon contemporary evangelicalism is that God wants us to put away doctrinal differences and embrace unity with people who’ve never before been considered mainstream such as Word Faith preacher T.D. Jakes.

In fact, his acceptance has apparently even become a racial issue as you see in Voddie Baucham Responds To James MacDonald’s ER2 Race Card.

While Jakes’ declaring himself a trinitarian preferring to express himself with the language of modalism has been the lightening rod, let me remind you of another important thing to keep in mind.

With Jakes now in the mainstream evangelical camp, WF preachers like Eddie Long move that much closer as well. Syncretism is seeping into contemporary evangelicalism.

By mainstreaming T.D. Jakes at bromance ER2, something like Word Faith Prosperity Preacher Eddie Long Crowned King moves closer as well. In fact, in that piece I include a video clip of Jakes performing his show at his firend Eddie Long’s church.

Jakes preached there last August on Long’s 24th anniversary at New Birth Church as pastor; well, king now, I guess. Having once followed the Word Faith movement, and from tracking it for 25 years, I can tell you that T.D. Jakes is every bit WF royalty as Eddie Long.

So is pastrix Paula White; and as you’ll see below from White herself, Jakes is largely responsible for her:

Again, this is not guilt by association; but rather, we have guilt by endorsement.The fact is,  T.D. Jakes holds the same heretical prosperity as both Eddie Long and Paula White.

With this in mind, I point you to Paula White set to be ‘enthroned’ by Eddie Long’s Jewish ‘rabbi’ accused of being a fraud. We read:

Orlando, Fla. is abuzz with word that Rabbi Ralph Messer is allegedly coming to New Destiny Christian Center, founded by the late Zachery Tims, to make Paula White a ‘queen’ during a Super Bowl Sunday service. 

White’s ‘coronation,’ if it happens, is expected to be like the much-criticized ceremony hitting the Youtube rounds. (Online source)

They refer to the video below:

I told you previously that this supposed “Rabbi” Ralph Messer heads up Simchat Torah Beit Midrash® (STBM), which is a mishmash of Messer’s quasi-Messianic Jewish-Christian “inter-faith” modalism.

Apparently Messer’s making some big enemies as we’re told:

Ralph Messer has been exploiting African-Americans and making a mockery of the Hebrew roots of the faith for years,” said former NFL Minnesota Viking chaplain Keith Johnson in a news release. 

“I first encountered Messer eleven years ago when my friend the late Football Hall-of-Famer Reggie White paid him an inordinate amount of money to learn Hebrew under his tutelage as a ‘rabbi.’

A year went by and Reggie never received even a single Hebrew lesson. I decided to confront Messer with Reggie and Pro Bowler Hardy Nickerson as witnesses. (Online source)

Uh-oh, seems Messer has some ‘splainin’ to do concerning his background and knowledge of Hebrew; Johnson continues:

“In their presence ‘Rabbi Ralph’ admitted he had never formally been ordained as a real rabbi. I then challenged Messer to read from my Hebrew Bible and he responded by making excuses for an hour about why it was “dangerous” to learn the language.

I continued to insist he read from my Bible in Hebrew and with great effort, Messer managed to slowly sound out the first verse of the Bible one syllable at a time. It was obvious to everyone present that Messer did not possess the knowledge to read the Hebrew language let alone to teach it. (Online source)

This really isn’t hard to believe if you’ve seen the Long ceremony video. Yesterday on his Wretched Radio program Todd Friel mentioned a Jewish Rabbi he knows was not impressed with Messer.

Since New Destiny isn’t returning calls for more information, I guess we’re going to have to wait until tomorrow to see if we have a new Word Faith queen standing alongside King Eddie Long.